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WASHINGTON (CNN) — A federal appeals court Friday ordered the dismissal of an ACLU lawsuit challenging President Bush’s domestic surveillance program.
President Bush secretly instituted the National Security Agency’s domestic spying program after 9/11.
The plaintiffs — a group of journalists, scholars and legal advocates — had no legal standing to pursue their claims because they could not show they were targeted by the National Security Agency’s warrantless spying program, the court decided in a 2-1 vote.
>>>Doug: And why couldn’t they show they were targeted by this program?
“They cannot establish they are ‘aggrieved persons,’” wrote Judge Alice Batchelder, of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati.
>>>Doug: And why couldn’t they show they were targeted by this program?
The ACLU argued it was in a legal tightrope, trying to prove its members were being spied on without access to electronic records that could support the claim.
>>>Doug: Bingo. More secrecy and lack of co-operation from an out of control, lawless, above the law administration.
The court ordered a federal judge in Detroit to formally dismiss the lawsuit, which was filed in January 2006. This was the first appeals ruling to address the program. The ruling did not address the larger constitutional questions of whether the NSA program is legal, or the limits on permissible warrantless surveillance.
>>>Doug: And why should it have? Another judge already determined it was unconstitutional.
The administration secretly instituted the program after the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington. It gives the NSA authorization to conduct wiretaps without a court order.
Judge Anna Diggs Taylor struck down the program last August, saying it violated the rights to free speech and privacy under the First and Fourth amendments. She said is also violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, which Congress passed in 1978. The 6th Circuit allowed the program to continue, giving the government time to appeal.
>>>Doug: There’s your “liberal media” for you again. This didn’t give “the government” time to appeal. It gave “the Bush administration” time to appeal. Generic phrasing like this leads to a lack of accountability. It’s the same as all the “Iran” talk we hear lately, ie: “Iran” is providing weapons to Iraq that are killing American soldiers. “Iran” is sending fighters to Iraq who are killing American soldiers. No it’s not. “Iran” is nothing but a proper noun denoting a country in the Middle East. “Iran” can’t so jack poop. People can. Which begs the question… even if the “Iran” claims are true - and between you and me, I don’t believe ANYTHING that comes out of this administration’s mouth anymore (not that I ever did, but even less so now, it that’s possible)… but even if their claims are somewhat true, the question should then become… WHO in Iran is doing this? If these actions are being carried out, whom exactly is/are carrying them out? Dissidents in Iran, or someone in the Iranian government? And if they do have something to do with the Iranian government, do they have something to do with the Iranian leadership? Again, generic phrasing like “Iran” leads to an “attack” Iran mentality that I do not believe is either warranted or wise.
The appeals court’s ruling allows the NSA to continue its activities, including monitoring Americans’ phone calls and e-mails without warrants. Electronic surveillance programs run by the NSA have been under fire since December 2005, when The New York Times disclosed that the government was listening in on international phone calls involving people suspected of having ties to terrorists.
>>>Doug: Again, it wasn’t “the government” that was listening, it was “the Bush administration.” As for the government/Bush administration “listening in on international phone calls involving people suspected of having ties to terrorists”… so they say. But when FISA was set up to facilitate just that… why would they bypass FISA? And the only intellectually honest answer here is… because they were spying on someone FISA wouldn’t approve of. And FISA would certainly approve of them “listening in on international phone calls involving people suspected of having ties to terrorists”. Therefore, I have always thought that their reason for the FISA bypass was because they were spying on whom they perceived to be their domestic enemies, like you and/or I? Like the Democratic Party? Individual Democratic legislators? who knows? If the ACLU couldn’t get access to the evidence, you and I sure don’t have much of a shot.
Some legal scholars said the program is an illegal and unwarranted intrusion on Americans’ privacy, but the Bush administration has defended it as necessary in the battle against the al Qaeda terrorist network.
>>>Doug: Right. These ass clowns don’t understand any more about al-Qaeda than they do brain surgery. It’s just a buzz phrase meant to tie any act of aggression to 9-11. When people hear al-Qaeda, what do you think the first thing that pops into their head is? Bingo, 9-11. Which leads to more fear… which leads to more condoning of militarism in the name of fighting “terrorism.” It led to Iraq, for God’s sake.
A special federal court, which meets in secret, has been in place since the 1970s to decide whether to approve warrants for national security surveillance. The government argues that it has the right to bypass that FISA court when there is an imminent security threat.
>>>Doug: Ironic, when the biggest threat to national security are the reckless, dangerous policies of the lawless, impeachable criminals in the Bush administration.
The plaintiffs in the dismissed case alleged that their communications with parties outside the country were being monitored by the NSA’s wiretapping program. The original complaint said the NSA’s surveillance disrupts “the ability of the plaintiffs to talk with sources, locate witnesses, conduct scholarship, and engage in advocacy.”
Plaintiffs in this case included branches of the ACLU, the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, the Washington and Detroit branches of the Council on American-Islamic Relations and Greenpeace.
“We are deeply disappointed by today’s decision,” said ACLU Legal Director Steven R. Shapiro. “The Bush administration has been left free to violate the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which Congress adopted almost 30 years ago to prevent the executive branch from engaging in precisely this kind of unchecked surveillance.”
Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vermont, also criticized the decision, calling it “a disappointing one that was not made on the merits of the case, yet closed the courthouse doors to resolving it.” He added a plea for the Bush administration to supply information Congress has asked for relating to the surveillance program.
>>>Doug: Don’t hold your breath, Senator Leahy. You’ll turn mighty blue.
“There is a dark cloud over the White House’s warrantless wiretapping program, and a full response to the outstanding subpoena from the Senate Judiciary Committee by this administration would be a good start to clearing the air,” he said.
>>>Doug: Dark cloud? Didn’t Noah say the same thing?
Both the White House and the Justice Department welcomed the decision.
>>>Doug: Now there’s a surprise.
“The Court of Appeals properly determined that the plaintiffs had failed to show their claims were entitled to review in federal court,” said Tony Fratto, deputy White House press secretary.
>>>Doug: Again, and why did they fail to make their case? See above.
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